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Post by sherri on Jun 26, 2017 1:41:23 GMT
Not sure if you'll be able to access this news link. www.sbs.com.au/news/thefeed/article/2017/06/21/meth-houses-what-house-looks-when-its-used-meth-lab?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sbsnews-thefeed+%28SBS+News+-+The+Feed%29
It's interesting from my point of view as it is about fallout from meth labs that are set up in rental properties and the risk to buyers who buy later, not knowing the previous history. The ice residue gets into all the soft furnishings and the plaster and has health effects. It may mean the house needs to be demolished. I agree with one buyer who says she is angry as there are no laws requiring sellers to disclose if there has been a meth problem there, yet they have to disclose past deaths etc
I think if I had a rental property, I would do as one person suggested-have a meth test done and on the rental agreement, state one would be done again at the end of the lease. Problem is, bonds may only be a few hundred dollars but the damage from this is in the thousands. Maybe the tenant should be able to be sued? And if they can't pay, a long jail term?
I'd be furious if it happened to one of my properties, anyway.
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Post by joethenuts on Jun 26, 2017 2:36:06 GMT
I understand what your saying , i cant see the person renting paying for the tests back to the bond its normaly 1 months rent so prob $1500 plus in my 2 wharhouses its 2 months rent the bond.
the trouble is far far do you go. do we test the drycleaner because he is a user or handling money that has cocaine on it. bistros cooks a meth user .would the same rules apply to used or new cars.
not a very easy answere i am afraid.
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Post by sherri on Jun 26, 2017 4:19:13 GMT
I never thought of cars. I suppose people could use ice in cars but not sure they would be as likely to be setting up a lab in their car & I think it is the labs that cause the most trouble as far as contamination of property goes.
You're right, it isn't an easy one, but I can see landlords having to introduce tests and conditions.
Apart from anything else, I would not want to be renting a place that was contaminated. So I would say a lot of tenants might start asking for reports before they will rent.
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Post by joethenuts on Jun 26, 2017 4:34:34 GMT
I was surprised it would happen in homes instead of lets say factoroies being cheaper rent ,more space higher ceilings , and not have your aunty poping in for a cuppa and saying what your cooking , but i am wrong.
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Post by sherri on Jun 26, 2017 5:35:59 GMT
I thought that too at first but probably renting factories is a bit harder-maybe the owners make you specify why you want to rent it.
I am assuming the people live in the rental home and use some of the rooms as labs. Two birds with one stone, so to speak.
They probably don't care about being affected as they are users as well as sellers, I bet.
Mind you, I think landlords have the right to inspect once every 6 months. If you were producing drugs you'd need to do a big clean up in a hurry. |
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Post by joethenuts on Jun 26, 2017 5:53:31 GMT
i think your right 2 birds with one stone but factories are inspected once a year.
i only thought of factoeries as if some one came in and saw chemicals they would not think twice,
but i think rent and make with 1 cost must be the go.
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Post by DADDY O on Jun 26, 2017 10:42:08 GMT
Meth labs used to be quite common in the Midwest States here.....like Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, etc. Methamphetamine is a drug that makes you feel like you can do anything. The reason why they did well in the Midwest states is due to the failing "Home Farm" business. It used to be that almost everyone in these states owned their own farms, but then the large Farm Corporations started buying the Mom & Pop farms out, and they practically became extinct. The people who were displaced in this corporate buyout scheme were the farmers and their helpers. Hence, they had to take jobs at the agricultural factories in order to stay alive. Their salaries went down and in order to pay their bills, they had to work more hours.......usually double shifts.
Enter the Meth market............... In order to work more hours they needed meth to bring them back to life. After a week or so of this drug, they became addicted to it. And thus, meth labs popped up everywhere in the Midwest.
A very good book to read about this is titled "Methland: The Death and Life of an American Small Town".
www.audible.com/pd/Nonfiction/Methland-Audiobook/B0031P59AW?qid=1498472592&sr=1-1
The publisher's synopsis is this:
Crystal methamphetamine is widely considered to be the most dangerous drug in the world, and nowhere is that more true than in the small towns of the American heartland. Methland tells the story of Oelwein, Iowa (pop. 6,159), which, like thousands of other small towns across the country, has been left in the dust by the consolidation of the agricultural industry, a depressed local economy, and an out-migration of people. As if this weren't enough to deal with, an incredibly cheap, long lasting, and highly addictive drug has rolled into town.
Over a period of four years, journalist Nick Reding brings us into the heart of Oelwein through a cast of intimately drawn characters, including: Clay Hallburg, the town doctor, who fights meth even as he struggles with his own alcoholism; Nathan Lein, the town prosecutor, whose caseload is filled almost exclusively with meth-related crime; and Jeff Rohrick, a meth addict, still trying to kick the habit after 20 years. Tracing the connections between the lives touched by the drug and the global forces that set the stage for the epidemic, Methland offers a vital and unique perspective on a pressing contemporary tragedy.
The most interesting thing I found about this book is the main drug dealer in the United States is the sister of Tom Arnold, the American Actor born and raised in Iowa. She starts out by buying meth from small meth labs but her market grew so large, she had to include the Mexican Mafia as one of her partners and suppliers. She was eventually arrested, tried, convicted and given a 20 year sentence in a federal penitentiary. She spent 14 years behind bars, got out and within 2 months started doing the same thing all over again. She is now serving a life sentence and might be eligible for parole after serving 30 years. I suspect she will die in prison.
In the US, the government tests buildings that are busted for meth.....they don't have to be labs, they could simple be selling meth out of a home. If they find any trace of meth, the building is demolished.......no if's, and's or but's about it. People are pretty careful who they rent to these days.......as they should be.
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