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Post by granty on Mar 22, 2017 21:25:54 GMT
I'm at the point now where I couldn't give a monkeys what happens to the UK. It's like a sick dog waiting to put down after the latest Muslim attack. Everybody is sticking up for Muslim's saying it's a terrorists attack, not a Muslim attack. You let Muslim's into your country, then you reap what you sow.
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Post by sherri on Mar 23, 2017 0:37:31 GMT
It is a terrorist attack for sure but what annoys me is when politicians say it has 'nothing to do with Islam.' It has everything to do with Islam because it is a form of that religion that is motivating the attacks. And from what I can make out, it is a form that is growing in appeal & influence.
You know what, it reminds me of decades ago here, when AIDS was on the rise. Doctors soon realised it was a lot more prevalent amongst homosexuals. A lot more. But they didn't put any bans in place to stop homosexuals donating blood as that was seen as discrimination and after all, 'not all' homosexuals carried AIDS and others could also have AIDS. Eventually common sense asserted itself and the highest risk group was asked not to donate. But a lot of people died in the meantime from contaminated blood.
Common sense now says not all muslims are terrorists, no, but just about all terrorists are muslims so we should be minimising the risk & cutting down on introducing more to the community.
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Post by mrp on Mar 23, 2017 8:08:18 GMT
The intel. agencies can ratf**k Trump but they can't predict this!?
I don't insist people like anyone. What I will insist until I'm broken on a Catherine Wheel is that the power the government needs to "kick out all Muslims" or "ban Islam" is way too much power for the government to ever have and everyone will suffer once it has that much power, which it will never, ever give back.
The UK doesn't seem picky with refugees and law enforcement is too politically correct.
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Post by sherri on Mar 23, 2017 13:04:00 GMT
I don't think the UK or Australia should kick out all muslims or ban Islam. I am not sure that would even be possible to enforce & would get ugly very quickly.
I don't think it is remotely necessary either.
But what govt could and should do is vet immigration better, deport criminals who commit serious crimes and are not citizens, make citizenship harder, with a longer qualification period and maybe a "P" plate period. Play up, lose your licence.
And start enforcing laws equally on everyone.
Some of the hate preachers should face fines, jail or deportation.
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Post by DADDY O on Mar 23, 2017 14:25:24 GMT
The Constitution of the US prohibits the discrimination of people based on Religion. I believe this was primarily due to the creation of The Church of England.
This is the reason why the courts have struck down both of "Tricky Trump's" ban on immigration from predominately Muslim countries. And, they did so based on his own words during the campaign.......like "We're going to Ban ALL Muslims from entering the country".
In short - he killed his own legislation.
It will be interesting to see if the higher courts agree with the lower court's decisions.
But..................I agree with Granty. London is known as "Baghdad on the Thames" over here.
At what point in time do you start to "manage" immigration?
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Post by granty on Mar 23, 2017 20:40:05 GMT
Every time you get the latest slaughter of innocents by the Muslim's, we get the same old drivel. "The British public can take it, The British public won't waver, The British public are very tolerant, blah, blah, blah". All from the BBC propaganda machine. WTF is the British public supposed to do? They throw you straight in jail if you dare protest against these evil brainwashed parasites.
Until the next slaughter, yawn, yawn, yawn.
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Post by sherri on Mar 23, 2017 21:56:47 GMT
I don't believe people should be banned from migrating simply based on their religion. But I do think it is fair enough for govt to say something like-it will be much harder for people from known terrorist areas to get in, they will be more carefully vetted. Or to look at employment and say-the stats show groups from these areas are still 75% unemployed after 5 years in this country, we obviously have a problem so we will cut migration drastically from these areas & only let in people from there if they have skills or are willing to attend language classes for x amount of time. If our govt did that, there are some national groups that would struggle and they wouldn't necessarily be muslim either. I recall some years ago, one reporter was brave enough to report that 95% of one particular group here in Vic was on unemployment or welfare. Of course they were down on him like a ton of bricks, saying they were being singled out, it wasn't their fault etc I forget the nationality now but it wasn't muslim and it wasn't black. It didn't have huge numbers here in Vic either. But if any group has 95% unemployment then there's a problem & we shouldn't be importing too many more of them till the problem is sorted to some extent.
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