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Post by DADDY O on Jan 9, 2017 17:30:29 GMT
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Post by sherri on Jan 11, 2017 20:57:21 GMT
I'll be honest here and say I don't like performers using their position to preach to us about politics or any other thing.
Not at award nights.
If they want to talk about it, give an interview to a reporter in their own time, that is different.
I look at it as akin to teachers wearing political T shirts or trying to thrust their views on students. Some may do it, but they shouldn't. If they wish to belong to political parties in their own time though, that is fine, different altogether.
I can't make the video work so I can't say for sure, but Trump may not have consciously meant to mock a disabled reporter.
It is a known fact that sometimes when we are trying to describe someone or make it clear who we mean, or describe an incident, we can unconsciously mimic the facial expression or body stance of that person.
That may have happened to Trump.
But even if he deliberately made fun of a reporter, he may not have known of the medical condition.
I'm not a Trump supporter, I'm just saying I don't know if it was deliberate or not.
He certainly has the gung ho personality where it could be true.
But I still don't think an awards night is the right place for Streep to air her views, she is not an expert. Just because she is an actress, it doesn't make her opinion any more worthwhile than the man in the street. |
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Post by DADDY O on Jan 12, 2017 18:01:52 GMT
Try this and see if it is any better. There is no doubt that Trump was mocking a disabled reporter. people.com/politics/trump-denies-mocking-journalist-disability-watch-video/Streep starts out by thanking the Globe for her lifetime achievement award for various performance. Then she said there was another performance that happened lately that brought her to tears. She talks about Trump's mocking of a disabled reporter who wrote a story about Trump some 16 years ago before the reporter's affliction developed to the debilitating disease it is today. Let me remind everyone that Trump also likes to mock fat women (Rosie O'Donnell, Miss America, et.al.). He likes to mock Ugly women (Carly Fiorina), and he likes to mock female reporters that ask the tough questions (Megyn Kelly). Mocking people is Trumps forte......he is a master at it and doesn't care what anyone thinks of him. |
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Post by sherri on Jan 12, 2017 21:14:09 GMT
No one is under the impression he is a man of great integrity, wisdom and character. Or particularly nice to everyone.
But then, a lot of world leaders over the years haven't been, have they.
We'll have to see how things go as far as looking after the best interests of USA.
Luckily it isn't a one man show, USA is a democracy so others will have some input.
I'd say Trump's form of arguing often does descend to mocking the credentials of the other person or putting them down in some way. It's his habit. Maybe it is one he will have to become a fraction more conscious of and try to keep it slightly under control.
But I just don't care to see performers preaching at me at an award night. They need to keep on topic.
If Trump had been at the award night and made fun of someone seconds before, fair enough, that would be relevant. But referring to an incident that had nothing to do with the award night.... nope she was off topic and trying to use her position to make a political statement.
As I've said, I don't mind them making a stance but not at this sort of function.
Imagine a student graduation night if a principal got up and made a speech where he/she made political statements. To be quite frank, the prin would probably lose his job.
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Post by DADDY O on Jan 12, 2017 22:05:05 GMT
No one is under the impression he is a man of great integrity, wisdom and character. Or particularly nice to everyone. But then, a lot of world leaders over the years haven't been, have they. We'll have to see how things go as far as looking after the best interests of USA. Luckily it isn't a one man show, USA is a democracy so others will have some input. I'd say Trump's form of arguing often does descend to mocking the credentials of the other person or putting them down in some way. It's his habit. Maybe it is one he will have to become a fraction more conscious of and try to keep it slightly under control. But I just don't care to see performers preaching at me at an award night. They need to keep on topic. If Trump had been at the award night and made fun of someone seconds before, fair enough, that would be relevant. But referring to an incident that had nothing to do with the award night.... nope she was off topic and trying to use her position to make a political statement. As I've said, I don't mind them making a stance but not at this sort of function. Imagine a student graduation night if a principal got up and made a speech where he/she made political statements. To be quite frank, the prin would probably lose his job. Actually, we are not a democracy, we are a Republic, in as much as, we elect people to vote for us. We don't vote directly on issues. I think she was on-topic. She first talked about her performances, and then she talked about Trump's performance. Is this any different than Trump Tweeting all night long about how bad everyone else is? I think not. Lastly, what do you think the Valedictorian's speech is all about? There's more politics going on in those things than in the Australian Parliament. |
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Post by sherri on Jan 18, 2017 21:50:36 GMT
There's more politics going on in those things than in the Australian Parliament. 
Possibly, but that wouldn't take much!!
Re your comment about Trump's tweeting. The man should cut back. Seriously, it is not a good look.
When I was teaching, we were ordered by the prin not to have any parents or pupils (past or present) on our friend list. He said if he ordered it, we would find it easier to blame him for it if someone asked. We could explain why we had to knock back their request. Most of my working friends still do not have FB at all, just to avoid trouble. My son is in a job where they have also been ordered not to have FB under their own name or anything like it. Not to make comments about their work etc
And it is not as if any of us were or are in high positions. I think tweeting and FB have a role to play for presidents and other leaders but it shouldn't be a personal account by then, it should be restricted to comments about their latest political news. A form of advertising. Personal sniping shouldn't be happening.
If a reporter outright asked him, fair enough if he replied he didn't feel she was a political expert of any kind and he would let the rest of the country decide on his performance. But he would be better off not commenting about her acting skills etc I still think she & other actors should also butt out of political comments in some situations. Why do they think they are any better qualified to comment than anyone else?
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Post by mrp on Jan 19, 2017 1:11:56 GMT
How is Trump bullying actors?
Rosie O Donnell is not funny and she is vile. Trump was right about that.
The media deserve mockery. They ALL. SUUUCK.
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